The latest white woman & child abduction in Pennsylvania has my blood on a slow simmer after it had been boiling all morning.
When Bonnie Sweeten stated that she along with her 9 year old daughter were abducted by black assailants pushing a Cadillac [that was sitting on 24s with spinning rims (I just made that up)], my eye brow raised in much skepticism, but still I was concerned for her.
Today we learn that she was not abducted and was chillaxing in a hotel near Disney World. What the fuck? Are you kidding me? There was really no big bad Negro involved, no, not at all???
It really pisses me off how (some) white women & or white men blame black or brown men for acting out fabricated crimes; be it rape, assault, robbery etc.
Pissing me off even more are the comments that I’ve read online from white respondents who have stated that they saw no issue with this crime being blamed on black men because of other socio-economic/political factors.
When will the caricature of the big bad black & brown man end?
And seriously speaking, what are the chances that a black or brown man will abduct an anonymous white woman with or without a kid in tow, especially in broad daylight? PLEASE!
The funny thing about this & other Susan Smith/Jennifer Willbanks(esque) situations is that it leaves the media with egg on their face as they aid in the search for the dark imaginary assailant(s). On the opposite side of the spectrum, these cases force people in the affected community to deal with racial issues whether they want to or not.
I wonder how Nancy Grace will react to this development tonight.
Well said brother! I’ve been fired up since I heard this story. Truth is, there have been many Black men who have been falsely accused, by White women. Seriously, it’s nothing new; however, it’s sad when you think that in this day and age this still happens. Oh well, I guess the fact that Black men dominate the news nightly when it comes to crime makes it ok. After all, White people don’t commit crimes. Yup, Jeffery Dahmer was a fluke.
Well, Nancy Grace of CNN does have a black show-producer right now, since the other previous eleven show-producers were all white before they all quit the show. Some of them cited Nancy’s inability to manage her own alcohol and drug-usage problems, and it may not be related to her bigotry or racism after all
I thought all this had ended since America is now in the post-racial era! Tsk, Tsk, Tsk!
I completely agree. I was upset when I first heard this story. Its a shame that in 2009 there are still people that think this way.
What is Sweeten thinking! Is she thinking that all black people look alike any way, so it’ll be hard for the po-po to find her made up, tall, mean black. But the trouble with that is, the po-po always come up with some poooor black person, (usually innocent) to pin the crime on.
This story pissed me off too when the hoax was revealed. When I heard this story the other morning, everything was okay until they mentioned the kidnapping suspects as black men. Immediately, a little bell went off in my head. It just seemed suspicious to me, because Susan Smith came to mind, I thought to myself, let’s wait and see. If she had to fabricate a kidnapping, why couldn’t the suspects be blue-eyed and blond?
Rippa – When I think about the falsely accused I think about Rosewood FL, I think about Emmett Till, OJ and so many more. Well, OK, maybe not OJ, but the history of lynching and other forms of retribution run deep in this country.
The faux victims really know how to keep up some shit & open barely scabbed over wounds
Michellefrommadison – Well, Im sure that there are very few black production staff on her show but so I will not argue that. Interesting bit on the drug & alcohol abuse. Any data on that? I like facts before I rant.
Asabaga – A post racial America. You you talking about the USA? No, you can’t be cuz, that ain’t us.
Imshakinmyhead – In the age of Obama, this is a mess. She might as well said that she was abducted by Obama.
Shaznyc – “Is she thinking that all black people look alike any way” I can see the composite sketch now. It would like like 45% of the Black men in America. LOL!!!
Embrownny – “everything was okay until they mentioned the kidnapping suspects as black men.” Dont you hate when you get that sinking feeling when the shoe drops; “and yes the suspects are black?
A blue-eyed and blond assailant, heaven forbid!
Tafari
Having a black criminal makes the story more credible. We all know it but refuse to admit it. While we continue to be the most violent we continue to be the stars of fabrication too.
We are so use to claiming VICTIM that we don’t even see how we are playing ourselves. Philly averages 250+ Black on Black murders a year and we wonder why we get picked on!!!
Having a black criminal does not make the story more credible. It only makes the disparity associated with racism more blatant. We have been programmed to think that crime and black people are synonymous. What is happening in Philadelphia is unfortunate. But that does not mean that anytime a crime is committed we can automatically attribute it to a black criminal. Some black people are so used to being told that we are the perpetrators of crime that we defend the dominant community’s penchant to blame black people for crime. I don’t wonder why black people get picked on. I recognize and understand that to be racism. What I wonder is why there are so many black people who are so quick to point the finger solely and squarely at the black community and bend over backwards to defend racism.
Peace
Well stated bp.
Dialogue is getting interesting? Kodiak, you viewpoint is interesting. While you make some valid points, overall your argument is out of touch.
I’m just saying,
Crime rates in Philly are simple enough to explain. It’s not about race. It’s about criminal entities competing over finite space with the tacit approval of law enforcement. Street-level narco-trafficking in the absence of controlling powers is chaotic. Philly is going through a period of “settling.” No one of the street has sufficient power to impose their will by means other than violence. This is essentially what happened in New York and Chicago with white ethnic gangs many moons ago. It happens whenever there is a power vacuum. It may look like a racial thing, but it is not.
Just one opinion.
I’m actually in touch… Why do you believe so many fabricators say that the suspect is a black man?
Is it ONLY because they’re racist?
I don’t care too much about Asians but If I was gonna concoct a criminal hood fiasco I’m sure as hell not gonna say I was attacked by fuckin Bruce Lee!!
Bruce Lee is dead. It would be rather idiotic to blame him.
Peace
You ignored my point to reply to a rhetorical statement!
and then you say idiotic!!??
Smdh
You admitted that you have been programmed to think that black=crime…thats a good start!
Now you’re understanding the mentality of the whites who fabricate these stories. My initial point is that we give them fuel to do so with all of the black on black crime! These facts make most of us appear to be savages and savages do the very things the fabricators accuse us of.
I don’t defend racism…I’m just fed up like many other African Americans. Sick of Blacks who stand up only if we are victimized by the white man but look the other way and make excuses when we are victimized by our own!
Zero Tolerance !…
Okay, so you admit that stories of black crime can be fabricated. That’s a good start. So you’ll understand that when people focus on telling about how black on black crime is out of hand then you might stop and ask yourself what might it be in relation to white on white crime? How many times have you heard the words white on white crime uttered in the news compared to how many times you hear the words black on black crime? So if all you hear is that black crime is out of hand it’s easy to see why people would assume a perpetrator is a black man instead of a dead, fucking Bruce Lee. White woman fabricates a story about a black man committing a crime and black people start going off on other black people. Racism on cruise control.
Peace
This is why you don’t hear the phrase white on white crime! most major cities have maps like these check it out…
copy&paste this link
http://inquirer.philly.com/graphics/homicide_map_2007/
I don’t care too much on whether we hear about white on white crime. What does that have to do with black folk? This is what the man wants us to have… Negros like you who focus on everything outside out the box while we continue to kill each other inside the box….
ZERO TOLERANCE!
You believe that we don’t have a problem within our communities when it come to killing each other. This is a rarity while many African Americans have accepted this fact for years. Read African American blogs about the deadly conditions in Chicago, Kansas City, Miami..etc!
I guess you haven’t evolved into the “We were conditioned by slave owners to hate ourselves so that’s why we kill each other today” I wonder what you would say to these people sense you still believe we don have the propensity for murdering our own!
I see Ms. Sweeten isn’t the only one with a penchant for fabrication. Show me where anyone has said that the black community doesn’t have a problem with murder. I have written about the subject on my own blog. So in typical American fashion, you make assumptions based on ignorance. Since it is obvious you are quick to make baseless assumptions on my character, it is no wonder that you are quick to believe the assumptions placed on the black community as well.
If you did care to learn something about the white community, you’d learn that violence and murder is not a phenomenon unique to the black community. We don’t operate out of a vacuum despite what we are programmed to think. You learn these things when you work to educate yourself and learn not to believe only what you see on television. If more of us bothered to learn the real facts regarding crime we would learn that white people are just as likely to commit crime as black people. And if we learned that white people are just as likely to commit crime, we’d learn that a story wouldn’t have more credence if the perpetrator was a black male. That is just an example of what happens when we take the time to look at the big picture and not focus solely on the fact that black people commit crime.
Peace
“quick to believe the assumptions placed on the black community as well”
The facts within the interactive map is an assumption?
I think you have misunderstood my post. Let me put it in a simple bullet form so “Maybe” you will understand.
*I do agree that there are made up stories that depict the Black man as the culprit.
*Why is the Black Man often chosen? The history of violence make us a more believable character! (factual map)
*You say this doesn’t make the stories more credible…I simply say (in other words) then why isn’t an Asian ever blamed, or any other race.
*You say it just shows that there is blatant racism as if thats the sole reason Black men are accused.
*After seeing the map you then switch teams to say that you never said that black people didn’t have issues of crime within there communities, but yet you continue to think we are chosen solely because of RACISM????????
*Now you get angry an ASSUME that I too believe in the fabricated stories…lol
NEXT!
ZERO TOLERANCE
Let me try to break this down for you further. But I seriously doubt if you will understand:
The post I have written about crime in the black community were done long before anyone here knew about your little interactive map. So its rather foolish to think that I changed my position this morning because of if. I enjoy bursting your little bubble but your influence here really isn’t that great. If you bothered to read any of my comments here you would have already read, “What is happening in Philadelphia is unfortunate. But that does not mean that anytime a crime is committed we can automatically attribute it to a black criminal.” Again, you defend racism. You have zero tolerance for what? Because it certainly isn’t for racism. You seem to support that pretty well.
Peace
“And if we learned that white people are just as likely to commit crime, we’d learn that a story wouldn’t have more credence if the perpetrator was a black male. That is just an example of what happens when we take the time to look at the big picture and not focus solely on the fact that black people commit crime.”
So the many interactive maps are wrong? show me proof of what you mentioned above. Have you seen the Chicago PD crime log, Philadelphia PD crime log… Google interactive maps for every major city and pull up the FELONY crimes.
You’re possibly including small rural white cities. The theft of cigarettes from 7-11, or public intoxication…shit that has nothing to do with where African American live!
http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2008/01/report-mo-has-t.html
According to the numbers from the 2005 Bureau of Justice Statistics (click here), of the 5,720 homicides committed on white people 4,755 were committed by other white people, 934 were committed by black people and 31 were committed by someone who was neither black nor white. Based on these statistics, a white person is more than five times more likely to be killed by another white person than they are likely to be killed by a black person. I’m sorry if this link isn’t as entertaining as your interactive maps. But nevertheless, the information should be enlightening. White woman kidnapped by somebody? Justice Department statistics say that the perp will be white.
Peace
I see where you are confused. I’m mentioning Black on Black crime simply because it shows our propensity of crime within major cities. Most fabricated crimes are generated in or near these cities thus…”The Black Man did it”
You are focused on????….Awww hell who knows, but I can’t make it any clearer on why I made my initial post!
Bottom line is that the “Denouncement” of unnecessary crime within the black community will build our reputations within our communities. There are Many Zero tolerance initiators in troubled major cities. Blacks are fed up with these issues just as much as racism…and Black on Black crime IS racism!
Zero Tolerance!
“You are focused on????….Awww hell who knows…”
Obviously you really don’t have a clue what I’m trying to focus on. I do believe that’s the nature of your problem.
Zero tolerance? More like zero intelligence.
Peace
According to the numbers from the 2005 Bureau of Justice Statistics (click here), of the 5,720 homicides committed on white people 4,755 were committed by other white people, 934 were committed by black people and 31 were committed by someone who was neither black nor white. Based on these statistics, a white person is more than five times more likely to be killed by another white person than they are likely to be killed by a black person. I’m sorry if this link isn’t as entertaining as your interactive maps. But nevertheless, the information should be enlightening. White woman kidnapped by somebody? Justice Department statistics say that the perp will be white.
Peace
LOL you cant be serious to think this negates what I posted before. Thanks for including Rural areas and also we are between 13-15 percent of the population… so of course they will have a larger number of murders. like I said look at major city maps and show me these same statistics. The most recent incident supposedly happened in Philadelphia…not Butte, Montana!
If she was in Butte,Montana then she would most likely accuse a White Man!
Show me information from a major city that shows black on black crime being so insignificant that a fabricator would most likely choose a white person as the culprit!
Nice try though!
KODIACK, there is some value in what you have stated. I am a vocal advocate for personal and community responsibility in the way we as Black people conduct ourselves, so as not to feed into the stereotypes, as well as facilitate our own self-destruction.
However, to coin a phrase: “you have it all ass backwards”.
The whole notion of “black on black” crime is a condition and it is conditioned. This condition stemmed from colonialism and slavery, and is perpetuated today by neo-colonialism, imperialism and capitalism. It is also conditioned from stories and images (like the interactive map you attached), primarily by the media, of African based communities in the diaspora or of Africa itself. So everyone, including “us”, are conditioned to see and believe that Black people are the most violent and dangerous species on earth. “Black on black” crime is therefore seen as a phenomenon. Hence the reason why Ms. Sweeten’s “story” … let’s just call it what is really was… “LIE”… was so easily believed!
But brotherpeacemaker makes an extremely valid point: “How many times have you heard the words white on white crime uttered in the news compared to how many times you hear the words black on black crime?”
When you look at the violence perpetuated by white people among themselves, whether in America or worldwide, the numbers are staggering when compared with that of so-called “black on black” crime. When you add the violence that white people perpetuate against “people of color” in America and worldwide, as well as take into account the tools they employ to instigate this violence… the political, social, economic, scientific (including medical), environmental and military resources they utilize, is there any doubt that they are the most dangerous, callous and violent species on earth!?
You need to understand this: if Black people stopped killing each other tomorrow and for the rest of time, it would make little difference in how we are perceived by the dominant culture… and unfortunately maybe even how we perceive ourselves. This is how deep I believe the condition and conditioning is. Case in point: although the Jewish holocaust happened about 60 years ago, we have been conditioned to see the Jews as victims… and they know how to push that button when it’s to their benefit. Even though they are the ones perpetuating genocide against the Palestinians in the Middle East, they are the ones perceived as the main “victims” in that conflict. Why is that!? If so-called “black on black” crime ended today, 60 years from now if it’s to the dominant cultures benefit, they will push that button and we will automatically be perceived as a threat, violent and a danger to the social fabric.
So the simple answer to the question posed by the title of this post: “When Will The Caricature End”… “never!”
I have visited your blog to get a sense of what you’re all about. Here is a suggestion for you. You need to take a step back and delve within yourself to find the source of your self-rage that you project onto the Black community. It’s neither productive nor enlightening. In fact, I would argue that it’s a condition and it’s conditioned.
Blessings.
Thanks for recognition of my effort. Considering how deep you are into believing all the negative stereotypes of the black community it was more than what I expected from you. Statistics show that a white person is five times more likely to be murdered by another white person and you still cling to the myth that black people are out terrorizing the white community. And of course, all the information in the world wouldn’t budge you from your insistence that black people are more hell bent on being criminals. Like Asa said, if black people stopped committing crime today you’d still buy the myth that has, is, and will forever be spoon fed to you that black on black crime is out of hand. You have bought into the propaganda hook, line, and sinker. I’m sure you make the dominant community proud.
Peace
I see this statement
“The faux victims really know how to keep up some shit & open barely scabbed over wounds”
and I am … confused.
The statement made by Sweeten say something about Ms. Sweeten and not anything about anyone else (white, black, gay, straight, hermaphrodite, …). The story isn’t any “more credible” due to the “color” or ethnic origin of the “alleged perpetrator” or of the “alleged victims.”
If a call came in about a white woman abducted by a white man, the same search occurs. What doesn’t occur is any mention about “racism” if the lady was lying. While ignorant associations may be made by many, we don’t have to believe them. However, the please do need to respond.
What we need to teach our kids is that statements like this (or other “racial epithet” statement) says something about the speaker (in this case Ms. Sweeten) rather than the person spoken “about”– in this case, any “black” or “brown” person.
Remember, there is one race here–Human. We are not like cats and dogs that can’t breed. We communicate, love, hate, and reproduce–all but one of those is a good thing. If you are not identifying “hate” as the bad thing, you are in a “bad” place… 😛
I urge everyone to remember that no person, regardless of their skin color, ethnic origin, etc., is actually defined by any statement made by anyone. Rather, the person speaking is saying something about them, the speaker. Usually, they are showing the world, quite adequately I might add, that they are ignorant.
I would hate for anyone to allow any group to adopt a word or symbol and use it to “define” their hate and subvert any other meaning the word or symbol had in the past or to others. By this I give the swastika as an example (See Wikipedia’s entry for swastika). Instead of thinking about the use of the symbol in Asia or other religions, many automatically think, “Nazi.”
The same thing happens with people People will say “the black man did it” or “the white man did it” to whomever will listen. My question is, “Don’t we have to search for what is said rather than ignore the statement?” If we don’t, we have to ignore ALL please for help.
In this case, we see a desperate (perhaps very ignorant) woman making statements that define her rather than anyone else. If you think her statements define any “black” or “brown” man, I ask … Why? Why do you give her statements that power?
You walk by “that crazy guy” in downtown NY who is telling everyone that the world will end tonight at midnight, and you smile, pity him, or otherwise ignore him. You do not think all guys like him are nuts, criminals, homeless. You think HE is crazy, delusional, etc, and you go about your day (unless you try to help). You are not affected, and you don’t think he is trying to say … anything.
We should look at Ms. Sweeten the same way. What she is saying is that she is ignorant, desperate, and lying. Why do we think HER color makes her this way? She may be this way, but it doesn’t say anything else about any other white woman or black man. Does it?
People who discriminate or who make false statements are not defining anyone but themselves. We should not give them the power that they want/crave. Instead, we should realize they are lying and/or in a desperate situation and need help (often serious).
Of course, that is just my opinion.
Amazing how bad one’s grammar/typing can get… I apologize.
* says, not say
* police, not please
If I missed others, feel free to make the correction as you read the reply…